Monday 6 October 2008

Mirspawn?

Okay, so... I kind of just wanted an excuse to use the word "Mirspawn", since as our Esteemed Commenter (No Relation) has so wisely provided, it's just plain fun to say.

But anyway, the main reason I believe this blogger is unrelated to our Mother Virus is that she has two children nicknamed Chickadee and Monkey. (I mean, I hope those are not actually their real names.) Can you imagine Mir naming her kids Chickadee and Monkey, even as blogging pseudonyms? (Actually, we already kind of know the kind of thing she'd name her children: Ayatane Michitaka and ELMA-DS.)

...but back to the point of this entry, which is that I was reading through an old thread on the Reyvateil's Melody forums in which people were arguing that Mir could never possibly have had children or a partner, because she started out emotionless and quickly turned to hating humans. I'm not sure I agree with this, but I didn't want to revive an old thread, so I thought I'd bring it up here, instead.

Basically, we're not really sure when Mir crafted Harmonious (I made a guess in my fanfic, but it's totally a guess; she could have been a lot older). And we know she was thirty years old when she began her rebellion. In the interim, she could have been feeling or doing anything. We don't know how quickly she snapped, how long she was stewing in hatred before she finally broke out. It could have been days, months or years. Yes, she was sealed away, and it's really not likely she actually would have been allowed to have children (or keep them if she got pregnant), but it's not entirely unfeasible, I think, that one of the researchers might have felt for her and secretly carried on a relationship with her at some point in her life. So she could have, at least, had a partner.

My point isn't really that she did - I think it's unlikely, and it's even less likely that she ever had a child (and if she had, it almost certainly would have ended up a lab experiment too) - but that it's at least within the realm of possibility. So, any thoughts?

7 comments:

thundercloud82 said...

There is the miniscule chance yes, but what we meant in that thread is that she didn't have a partner in the same sense as Aurica, Misha & Shurelia had Lyner. Sure there is the possibility that she did, but something like that should have been mentioned in the world history don't you think...?

The world history is loaded with supposedly secret info, so I'd think that would be in there too, if it happened.

As far as children go...every reyvateil in the game is innocent in that way as far as I can tell, except for Spica & Claire.

Ayulsa said...

Oh, I'm not saying the creators intended for it to be so; I'm sure we'd have heard about it. More that it's not a logical impossibility, if someone wanted to fill in the gaps by suggesting that happened, since the creators have said nothing and her circumstances don't keep it from having been so. I'm more talking about what's possible to explore without contradicting canon than what's explicitly meant to be. :) (I write fic. This is how we think: in terms of possibilities. :)

...Spica and Claire had kids? This I did not know. Or do you just mean they had intimate partners?

Anonymous said...

I don't imagine Mir would have been allowed to go through having a child because pregnancy might damage their precious specimen. However, I can easily imagine their taking part of her reproductive system to artificially create more Reyvateil kids for further testing.

It's entirely possible she could've had a partner, though it would probably be secret, because it would have been so talked-about in history otherwise. And it would have been a lot harder for people to treat her as just some viral thing that needed to be eradicated, rather than a person, if there were evidence of a love affair that seemed human; it would get a lot of sympathy from most people, I think.

Bottom line is, there's a lot we just don't know. Of course, I know even less than people who have read all the extras, so their guess is probably better than mine.

Ayulsa said...

because pregnancy might damage their precious specimen.

<Mir> ...precious? That's a good one. Almost as good as "not damage". *she's snarking with you, mind, not at you.*

It's entirely possible she could've had a partner, though it would probably be secret, because it would have been so talked-about in history otherwise.

Hmm, you're right. See, that's the kind of justification I need as to why it either doesn't make sense or would have had to have been very secret; "they didn't mention this in the external materials" doesn't ping my sense of "this couldn't have happened" as much as "well, if it had happened we would probably know about it because it would have become infamous in the world's history". In-world justification, basically. :)

Anonymous said...

I tend to be that way about needing in-world justification, too. To me, the part of the story that isn't told might be anything at all. I wonder if it's a fanfic writer thing?

Ayulsa said...

I kind of think it might be, yes. To me, anything the game or developers haven't stated or strongly implied couldn't happen is fair game to say could happen within the realm of canon; if there's an in-world reason it would be suspect, though, that's entirely different.

I get the feeling I'm not making myself terribly clear, but yes, what you said, and I think it is a ficcer thing. :)

thundercloud82 said...

Spica & Claire do not have children. I was just saying that they had intimate partners. Sorry for the confusion.